state department, hagel's your guy. and interestingly, everybody thinks he's going to get confirmed which would just prove that his last conspiracy is false. he was wrong once again. i think these are perfectly legitimate questions to be raising about the next secretary of defense. >> and they're questions that were asked and answered. and they're a little ridiculous to keep harping on those. >> i think that hagel would agree. we're switching gears, turning to the campaign. president obama faced this criticism over plans to help more people go to college. now the president is focused on preschool, and thursday unveiled his new early education plan. amy, i'll talk to but this first. how does this new government-funded plan if over with conservatives? tough to argue, right? >> well, no, because it's a question of whether or not it's the federal government's role to be involved in education or a state function. a lot of conservatives believe it's a state function. education is only funded by the federal government by about